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Ex-DBAs and making the tea

Posted by oakesgr on September 24, 2009

I wanted to write something about Doug Burns…

Doug’s been working at my company as a contract developer for the last few months and it’s been a real experience. He’s been ultra friendly, incredibly modest and full of useful info that he’s all too willing to share. We’ve bullied him into two presentations so far and he’s not got away yet. He’s also been really supportive on the blogging front.

One other thing I’ve come to realise is this guy LOVES to talk!

We’ve got a chat channel at work dedicated to oracle and you don’t have to ask him twice to contribute. The funniest thing though, is that he keeps insisting he’s not a DBA. He’s very keen to point out to anyone that will listen that he’s been hired as a developer and therefore any DBA type advice he gives can be taken with a pinch of salt. As get out clauses go, that’s a pretty damn fine one.

‘Yes, yes, I know I’m an internationally respected DBA that’s presented all over the world and written some of the best white papers on parallelism to be found – but please check with your dbas before following any of my advice!’– I’m paraphrasing (or plain making it up?) in a major way but you get the gist of it.

Seriously though, I know Doug’s contract is due to expire in the not too distant future and I for one will be sad to see him go. There’s been some talk of him coming back next year. If we’re really lucky he may even come back as a DBA this time!

… then again we could always do with someone to make the tea, just the one sugar in mine please Doug 🙂

 STOP PRESS! – a little bird has told me that Doug may be renewing his contract to start again on 19th Oct. Looks like I’ll be making my own tea for the foreseeable future…

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10 Responses to “Ex-DBAs and making the tea”

  1. Boneist said

    …and I for one will be sad to see him go.

    That’s me for two then!

    I’ve learnt *so much* from Doug in the time he’s been here, although not all of it is strictly Oracle related *{;-)

    Actually, I think it’s difficult to be around Doug and *not* learn something, whether you want to or not!! *{;-D

    • oakesgr said

      ‘Actually, I think it’s difficult to be around Doug and *not* learn something, whether you want to or not!! *{;-D ‘

      No arguments there, I never thought I’d see anyone get visibly excited about ASH reports to the point of jumping around until I met Doug! It’s contagious!!

    • Doug Burns said

      The more I read that post and these comments, the more I realise that almost everything could be applied to the pair of you equally. OK, possibly not ‘loves to talk’ and Graham but, frankly, Boneist has got a damn cheek levelling that accusation at *me*!

      • Boneist said

        but, frankly, Boneist has got a damn cheek levelling that accusation at *me*!

        Hey, I don’t believe I levelled any accusations at you! Not here, anyway…. *{;-)

      • Doug Burns said

        True, now that I re-read things, but it was perhaps *implied* by …

        and *not* learn something, whether you want to or not!!

      • Boneist said

        That was merely a comment on your compulsion to share knowledge, nothing else! (And I didn’t mean it as a bad thing, either!)

        Far be it from me to comment on how much or little you like talking *{;-)

  2. mwidlake said

    I’ve never worked with Doug and he has never made me a cup of tea, but we see each other at SIGs quite often.

    Doug presents at a lot of SIGs, the UKOUG and (just as he is for you guys) tries to accomodate when asked, as well as his Blog. This is all done in spare time for no reward, he does it as he is passionate about sharing knowledge and being part of the Oracle community. So Hat’s off to Doug.

    {Though I have to say, he is very good at coming to meetings just after I have presented, so I should not really like the guy that much.}

    • Doug Burns said

      he has never made me a cup of tea

      I wouldn’t hold your breath!

      Though I have to say, he is very good at coming to meetings just after I have presented, so I should not really like the guy that much

      Damn! Is it that obvious?

  3. Doug Burns said

    I wanted to write something about Doug Burns…

    I thought you were joking! Serves me right for winding up DBAs, I suppose. Never under-estimate DBAs 😉

    One other thing I’ve come to realise is this guy LOVES to talk!

    I don’t have the first idea what you’re talking about.

    therefore any DBA type advice he gives can be taken with a pinch of salt.

    In my defence, the guy was asking about backup and recovery stuff and that’s far too important for a little chat on a chat channel or experimental blog posts. Better to go and speak to people who are doing it day in and day out. It’s not like this site is short of expert DBAs.

    We’ve bullied him into two presentations so far

    That’s two Lunch and Learns, but there have been a few presentations for my own team on top. I’m all presentation-ed-out at the moment!

    Looks like I’ll be making my own tea for the foreseeable future…

    Yep, sorry to disappoint you but, after my trips to Bucharest and Openworld, I’ll be back bothering you lot again. (I think this is supposed to be a holiday, but I’ll need to remember to take a real one of those at some point!) It looks like it’ll be to the end of March, in a development team, but not just development stuff. I think we might looking at stuff like Exadata, so how could I leave 😉

    When all’s said and done, I think my role is technically as an Oracle Specialist, but any opportunity to grind away at the DBA/Developer divide is fine by me! LOL

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